• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    I mean. It’s good and all.

    But “most metal girl alliance ever”?

    That’s selling women short, groups of women have done a lot of metal shit both figuratively and literally.

    Set the bar where it deserves to be, normalize this type of stuff as basic human decency.

    • lars@lemmy.sdf.org
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      18 hours ago

      It is time for me to air 1 of my grievances.

      I hate. Hate. Hate. When men are like “I can’t believe [awful thing] happened to that woman. I mean, I have a [daughter/sister/mother] at home.”

      Like what kind of awful person needs a female relative in order to empathize?

      In conclusion, those guys are like the least metal boy alliance ever.

      • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nz
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        11 hours ago

        Children are taught at a certain stage in their life that there are starving kids in Africa, and that they mustn’t feel too much empathy for people who they don’t know. If a kid gets depressed over conditions in foreign countries, or develops climate change anxiety, or refuses to eat meat, they aren’t encouraged. They’re either sent to a mental health professional to have their empathy recalibrated, or the adults just hope their empathy blunts over time on its own.

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        11 hours ago

        Why are you assuming that the female relative is a “need” in order to empathize and not just a way to feel closer to the problem? I think it’s fair that if you have deep connections with someone, their problems become your problems. It doesn’t mean you wouldn’t care about that if you didn’t have that connection.

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      21 hours ago

      normalize this type of stuff as basic human decency

      When human communities were smaller, there was the idea that you’d “run out of town” people who broke the social contract - if you lived in a small town and were known as a cheat or a thief it was more likely that people would just stop dealing with you than having police show up. It’s hard to stay in a place if no-one will work with you, socialise with you or sell you stuff, so you’d typically move to another town and hopefully learn your lesson.

      This is obviously a double edged sword; it’s just as easy to end up excluded from society through no fault of your own, but there is definitely something to learn from this. You don’t owe space - physical or virtual - to people who aren’t going to use that space considerately. Society at large is too big to deal with problematic people this way anymore, but in your social circles or smaller groups you can absolutely tell people that if they aren’t going to play by the groups rules then they don’t get to play at all.

    • Zachariah@lemmy.world
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      17 hours ago

      Would it just be a metal alliance then?

      I thought it was rather punk rock myself.

      Edit: confused about the downvotes. How would you say this was very metal of them without adding the “girl” qualifier?