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    If there was any time for any non-politician that wants to make a difference in politics to have a break, it’s now. There’s a long 4 years ahead of us.

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      Eventually anybody would get tired of screaming into the void about equality. At some point you have to priorities your own mental health and protect yourself. It’s completely normal to feel this way.

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      I totally understand your sentiment, but I also fully understand this sentiment:

      I have no goals to be a martyr for a nation that cares nothing about me

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      It might not be a bad strategy. Trump is famously undisciplined and his lackeys are treacherous. The best chance for survival might very well be to sit back and let them fuck up. Last time around he didnt manage to build the wall or repeal the ACA, not because activists stopped him, but because his own allies couldn’t stop tripping over their own feet. Without someone like McConnell to hand him finished packages to rubber stamp, he could go four more years spinning in circles without implementing much of anything.

      And peaceful protest is a nonstarter. Hes itching to have people killed, and giving him four years to sift through the general staff to find officers willing to do it will make things much worse in 2028.

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        Here’s the thing: the economy is picking up steam quickly as it always does when Democrats are in charge. If Trump does nothing (and no pandemic hits) he will cruise to a third term (and yes that’s with this SC.

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          If he manages to implement absolutely none of his policy goals, it is plausible that the economy coasts along and does not fall off a cliff. But still that leaves everyone in the same spot. Hell be sitting there in 2028 having accomplished none of his stated policy goals after 8 years in office. His chances of getting off his ass and completing any of his talking points would not be improved.

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              There’s a good chance. However, without a central figure to rally behind those fascists will fall on each other like bbq covered zombies.

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                I hate to say it, but there are plenty of other lightning rods in the party. Heck Nikki Haley could manage to pull a coup inside the GOP if he dies. That’s the real problem for normal people. Whomever the GOP nominates they will rally around like the second coming.

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        Yes, it matters.

        Even if for no other reason than to make the nature of the oppression clear. Not talking about it normalizes it, gives tacit permission for it.

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          Who says they’re not going to talk about it? They’re just going to stop doing community driven get-out-the-vote campaigns. This article is literally about how black women are a major block in the Democratic party that handles that kind of community organizing in getting people registered to vote and getting them all the info they need to vote. How’s stepping back from that “not talking about it?”

          This article is literally about how they help others get their voices heard, but it’s black women who “aren’t talking about it?” Please.

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      But, as indivuals, do they owe us the effort of helping our voices be heard? Because that’s what this is actually about: that traditionally, black women have been some of the strongest organizers within the Democratic party. The work they do helps others get their voices heard through their votes. This year they basically got told that nobody cared, including from black men. When this is about black women helping others get their voice heard, it’s pretty clear that right now nobody cares about the work they’ve put in to do that.

      I don’t blame anyone for putting in decades of hard work and feeling like it’s no longer their responsibility to get others organized and get their voices heard, when the majority has made perfectly clear that they don’t give one hot damn about all that hard work. Why should that job be left to some of the most vulnerable amongst us culturally, anyway?

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    But, Trump has a lot of support by black women too? Why do these articles always make it sound like all minorities, blacks included, only vote one way? There are millions of black females that are conservative, the deep south is filled with very religious black people… does their voice not count?

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        Just because they happen to be a minority doesn’t mean they don’t show up to the polls. The poll totals in the deep south, where the majority of black Americans live, have historically shown that black Republicans, who are mostly “Christian”, show up to the polls far more than their black Democrat counterparts. Exactly the same as white “Christian” Americans.

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    You know what I think they should do, keep marching with Black Lives Matter carrying “Palestinian” flags screaming “From The River To The Sea”, that should definitely get us all another Democratic government.

    Do you know who are the second largest Democratic voters by group, white or minorities, Jews. Do you know whose been the backbone of Liberal Democratic politics for the last hundred years, Jews. Jews put their very lives on the line for the Civil Rights movement, and have been at the center of every single Democratic public good which put all people of color into the position to be able to rise to be the Democratic powerhouse they are today.

    You guys should definitely keep trying to deligitimize Israels right to defense, and right to exist, bake it into the Black Live Matter charter, make Jews unwelcome in Liberal spaces, for the benefit of antisemitic Islamic Jihad supporters, because that seems like a sure winner.

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      No, as a jew, fuck stealing other people’s land and outright destroying their culture. What the fuck are you even saying right now??

      Are you a fuckin’ schlameel or what?

      No need to answer.

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      Most genocides have been construed as a defensive measure in the past. This one isn’t any different. Even if it was politically smart to genocide the Palestinians, it doesn’t make it correct or good. And many of the most vocal supporters of the Palestinian cause are Jews.

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        Foundationally antisemitic… “let’s gather all the Jews into one country, tell them that’s where they belong and only where they belong; the only place they could actually be safe. Anyone opposing this is clearly a racist/xenophobic and/or genocidal. Anyone standing in the way of this project must be destroyed, even if (perhaps especially if) they are themselves Jewish.”

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      Remember, you’re on Reddit’s step child, super LIBERAL Lemmy… you can’t say those things without getting down voted and called out… god forbid we have a different opinion around here…

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      Every last centrist agrees with you. Except the ones who think you’re not sufficiently pro-genocide.