• iii@mander.xyz
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    20 hours ago

    What’s the reason for excluding so many european countries in this graphic?

    • azuth@sh.itjust.works
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      5 hours ago

      As with all EU policy, the purpose is to make the USA look bad. This is the only reason Russia is not even in the EFTA or the EU.

      I have insider information that powers are play are trying to engineer a way to kick out Latvia to make the statistics more embarrassing to you.

      PS: UK 1.48, Switserland Not a country, Russia 6.8, Belarus 2.32, Ukraine 3.84 pre-war, Moldavia 2.27 USA 6.38

      I don’t think adding Russia will make the difference you think it will, since it’s barely more violent than the US.

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          4 hours ago

          I used wikipedia’s data that is sourced from UNODC and is apparently for 2021. For states the size of the UK it doesn’t really matter, fluctuations are small. Any given year the US will have ~6 times the homicide rate of the UK.

    • MBM@lemmings.world
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      4 hours ago

      Whenever you see a map with data about most European countries but not the UK, it’s probably Eurostat. After Brexit they stopped sharing their data.

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      4 hours ago

      Pretty sure the UK is no longer part of Europe. The greyed out countries aren’t part of Europe, so why would they be included?

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      20 hours ago

      The UK not being included makes me think that these are only EU member countries? I don’t know for sure though.

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          19 hours ago

          It literally says Eurostat in the bottom right

          Eurostat (European Statistical Office; DG ESTAT) is a Directorate-General of the European Commission (…). Eurostat’s main responsibilities are to provide statistical information to the institutions of the European Union (EU) and to promote the harmonisation of statistical methods across its member states and candidates for accession as well as EFTA countries.

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        19 hours ago

        UK, Switserland, Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Moldavia.

        Cyprus is included for some reason.

        Which two of the above were you referring to?

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              4 hours ago

              The reason the US looks bad is because the US is bad. You don’t need to aim very high… I mean, you don’t need to aim at all, or put any effort into it. Just let the US be the US and it already does all the looking bad for you.

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              18 hours ago

              The US does look bad. There is no make involved. The US homocide / gun deaths numbers are en par to some failed states or those with civil or actual war.

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                17 hours ago

                Your argument would be illustrated if this post included europe, as the title claimed it would.

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                  4 hours ago

                  Amazing, huh, how comparing the US to other modern civilised countries makes the US look bad?

                  I wonder what that means…

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                  5 hours ago

                  Ok, so the US is only much worse than the majority of EU countries.

                  That better?