• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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    4 months ago

    Israel is making life very dangerous for Jews the rest of the world over, including myself. They want to make it sound like all Jews are Israelis because it helps their cause. Which, of course, suggests that all Jews favor genocide and that emboldens bigots.

    And here we go again. Spain isn’t persecuting Jews.

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      4 months ago

      Remember all the fruitcakes saying a secret cabal of Jews runs the world? Israel is surely pumping them up and their outside influence on our politicians is making it look even worse.

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        I’ll say it once, I’ll say it again, Hamas played the whole damn world like fucking puppets with one attack.

        I’d be absolutely shocked if the actual leaders that planned the attack are in the strip. Now any Palestenians that might have been against Hamas in the strip are stuck fighting a nuclear power in full “us vs them” mentality, Israel reacted exactly how Israel does any time it has been attacked, which is with overwhelming and vicious force now putting the country doing monstrous actions against civilians going for what looks like a full genocide, your exact point on a rival religion suddenly now giving a lot of voice to the conspiracy theories, it has created an even bigger divide in the US (but then again what doesn’t anymore) and Saudi Arabia who was working on deals with Israel has backed all the fucking way off and NATO is sitting there awkwardly trying to decide exactly where on the line it wants to walk seeing as the US can’t bring itself to go against Israel while Russia is rather uppity at the moment.

        Taking away any conversation on ethics, which is nearly impossible… I just can’t believe these leaders are this fucking short sighted.

        • theonyltruemupf@feddit.de
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          4 months ago

          This is the best comment I read on the topic on Lemmy. Thank you for making a great point and not bluntly resorting to antisemitism.

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    4 months ago

    No one expects a state official to mention the fucking Inquisition to defend their own crimes against humanity.

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    Israel is the last country one would think that would do things like this to other people, considering their history. Its like they want to create validation for bad things people have said about them. Though i hope its same situation as in russia, regular people dont want to do those things but are so apathetic and fear their leaders so much they dont dare to rise up. Though in this situation they are likely also so well misled and manipulated they think they are doing the “right thing”. Eitherway, current israeli leadership should just go, like previous german leadership. I really dont want to think majority of their country supports this.

    This shit will likely be one of the catalysts for the next world war, at least it feels that way.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      Israel is the last country one would think that would do things like this to other people, considering their history.

      Jewish people maybe, but Israel is another story. They’ve been doing exactly this their entire history. From the Nakba of '48 to the invasion of Lebanon in 2018, the Israelis have a long and consistent record of picking fights with their neighbors and using centuries-old atrocities to justify their modern day brutality.

      From sterilizing Ethiopian Jews to toppling the Nasser government over the Suez Crisis to conducting continent-wide arms deals for dictators stretching from South Africa to Central Asia, these are bad dudes and always have been.

      current israeli leadership should just go, like previous german leadership

      Funny thing about the previous German Leadership…

      Germany’s post-World War II government was full of Nazis: A new study says that half of all senior officials in Germany’s Justice Ministry in the 1950s and 1960s were former Nazis.

      The study, known as the Rosenberg project, examined previously classified documents to gain insight into the era between 1950 and 1973. Researchers found that some 77 percent of senior officials in the Justice Ministry had once identified as Nazis, a portion higher than during the Third Reich, the period between 1933 and 1945 when Adolf Hitler controlled Germany, and much higher than researchers expected.

      The group included Nazi-era prosecutor Eduard Dreher, a man who sought the death penalty for petty criminals, and Max Merten, who played a role in deporting Jews from Greece.

      While US authorities sought justice by putting 16 lawyers and jurists who played a role in the Nazi regime on trial in 1947, Germany tried one lone prosecutor after establishing the West German Federal Republic in 1949.

      Many of those working for the ministry in the post-war years came from backgrounds as lawyers or judges in Nazi Germany, and came to the department to provide legal advice as West Germany rebuilt itself. By coming together and closing ranks, the network of former Nazis not only protected one another from legal prosecution but also bound together to create the nation’s laws.

  • RockyC@lemm.ee
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    Fuck Israel right in the ass with a 2x4.

    They have become the very genocidal monster that they were once the victims of.

    Fuck Israel.

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      Israel was never the Nazis’ victim, Jewish people were. Israel is not equal to Jewish people and this is doing a huge disservice to all the Jewish people around the world fighting against this colonial state.

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        Wasn’t modern Israel founded by Holocaust Survivors or something? I dunno history I just always heard that…

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          Zionism is an Austrian idea, that the British started to enact after the Ottoman Empire fell in 1917. The United Nations then published their partition plan in 1947 which was followed by the Israel Declaration of Independence in 1948.

          Which means yes, technically the founding was done by Holocaust Survivors, but in reality Israels history is not too dissimilar to Colonialism.

  • Lad@reddthat.com
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    4 months ago

    Israel and Russia acting pretty much the same way at the moment. Yet most of the Western world supports one while condemning the other.

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      I don’t know anyone outside of the political class and a few right wing nutters that supports israel, especially after the images coming out of rafah in the last few days

      edit: even my daily heil reading “shoot em in the channel” relative was perturbed

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        I absolutely support the right of Israel to exist and defend itself against Hamas. I just don’t think that this sanctions the bombing of innocent Palestinians in Gaza or to pursue an aggressive settlement policy.

        I am in favor of Israel.

        I am strongly opposed to Netanyahu. Fuck that guy and his entire government.

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    4 months ago

    Did Spain ask Palestine if they want to be a state? Who are the leaders of Palestine that will interact with Spain?

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      I’m pretty sure the entire argument since 1948 has been that they want to be a state.

      I’m pretty sure it’s literally in the idea of a two state solution.

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    Dude speaks as if Israel and Palestine have spent the past 5 decades being The Near Eastern equivalent of Sweden and Denmark, rather than locked in a neverending vendetta that makes beefing between The Crips and The Bloods seem like playground scraping, by comparison