• fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    Posting this at top level since its burried in replies:

    Fact time. You don’t always die when shot, and the US is a baby factory. I can’t find good stats on non-lethal gunshot, so I’ll do the rest.

    Verdict: Pretty accurate.

    • 8.4% without health insurance (33 in 400)
    • 11.5% poverty rate (46 in 400)
    • 20% adults at or below literacy level 1 (80 in 400)
    • 57% mental illness untreated (228 in 400) (requires math from NIH source)

    References:

  • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    my favourite is how tennessee effectively made insurance more expensive for everyone because one trans child wanted to play sports with her friends in school

      • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        they basically put up a bill that banned tenncare from contracting with organizations that offer gender affirming care in any state, which is… a lot of organizations which limits the options which makes everything more expensive. at the time it was all based on a lawsuit from one 8 year old trans girl who wanted to play sports with her friends.

        • GeneralVincent@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          Nothing more Republican than having the government artificially restrict free market capitalism… wait that not what every Republican I’ve ever known has said they support. Weird.

      • nikscha@feddit.de
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 year ago

        True. But assuming I’m part of that population statistically I’d be shot after at most 400 days. Definitely not a population I’d wanna live in.

    • Ookami38@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 year ago

      Single GSWs aren’t THAT deadly. Quick Google shows about 20%. So after 2000 days everyone is dead, assuming we’re not replacing them ever.

      • nikscha@feddit.de
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 year ago

        Birthrate in the US is about 1.1% per year. You’d need a lot of immigrants to replace the workforce.

        Maybe there’s a group of people who get shot more than once, and they get included multiple times. That would skew the statistic.

    • weeeeum@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 year ago

      I have no idea how no one has picked up on this and have all decided “Americans are dumb”.

      What everyone has missed is the literacy statistic is for ENGLISH literacy. The other 20% or so are pretty much all immigrants that cannot speak English and there aren’t tens of millions of adults with the mental capacity of a rock.

      • idiomaddict@feddit.de
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 year ago

        I’m from Connecticut. Willimantic area, not Greenwich area, but we were still less damaged by Jim Crow and similar policies (except for redlining, that fucked everyone). I spoke to a man in 2017, who had been born in the US, seemed aware and thoughtful, and had to get his granddaughter to write down the claim number I wanted to give him, because he didn’t know his numbers or letters.

        I didn’t ask, even though it was killing me with curiosity. His granddaughter probably heard the curiosity in my voice, and explained that in 1967, when he was able to leave school, the teachers didn’t care whether a black kid learned to read. They let him leave school at twelve, even though it was well after brown v the board of education. By the time he wanted to learn to read, he was older, had full time work, and it just didn’t click.

        That man was underserved by his government well past the point of mistreatment, not stupid. He’s obviously only one data point, but he’s not the only black man who was treated differently in schools

  • zepheriths@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 year ago

    I don’t want to be that guy but 8 billion divided by 400 is 20 million. So to get a global average you would multiply the number here by 20 million… 20 million people are not shot every day

    • spooksboots@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 year ago

      This is not an argument about whether or not the stats are accurate but: I think they’re talking about the US, not the world.

      • zepheriths@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 year ago

        If that is the case than 827,000 people are shot every day in the US… That’s not right either.

        It’s literally math for what they are saying when one person out of 400 is shot and it is scaled up to the US population. Even if it was rounded from .5 in a set of 400 that’s still over 400k The actual number is 316 per day. Still a bad number but that is .1% of the number they have given

        • Grimy@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          1 year ago

          Not to mention one everyday would be 365 out of 400 every year. Clearly, ~90% of the population isn’t getting shot every year.

            • Grimy@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              1 year ago

              Yes. Still, 90% of the population isn’t getting shot every year and a couple of people aren’t going to make up for it with multiple gunshot wounds.

              That being said, whatever the real percentage is, it’s still too high

              • Ser Salty@feddit.de
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                1 year ago

                Oh, yes, 1 in 400 is still the wrong proportion, but I guess you can’t say a quarter of a person is shot every 8 months or whatever it would be, if you’re just trying to make a quick and concise point.

                • usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  Then why choose 400 people, or why include the shooting stat once they went with 400? The number would very much round down to zero, and the post says at least 1 person per day which means that’s the lower bound