• Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        Cracker isn’t an epithet that native Americans have ever used though.

        Paleface would be the matching slur to redskin.

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          11 months ago

          You would be if they had stolen your home and pranced around in a caricature costume of you through the stadium they built after bulldozing your land

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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            11 months ago

            Yes, but that’s the point. They didn’t do that to white people, so white people are in no position to be offended. Including me. Which is why I’m not only not offended, but find that highly appropriate.

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              10 months ago

              What is happening when white people are like “I’m not offended by this” is to minimize the offense that native Americans feel about the same thing.

              As if to say “I’m not offended, why are they?”

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          11 months ago

          Me either, but it’s actually meant to be offensive whereas Caucasians is just a classification.

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      11 months ago

      The problem with the football teams is that usually the name of team is the name of a group of ppl that was almost exterminated and their descendants still pay the price and nobody cares while their name is used as something cool. Just using the name should not be that offensive.

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        11 months ago

        Except redskins is offensive. It’s not the name of a group of people, it’s an epithet describing them.

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            11 months ago

            Were you going to show us this poll or were you just going to expect us to believe that quote of yours isn’t one you just made up?

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              11 months ago

              I like to omit the source sometimes just to draw out lazy comments like yours. It really shows that you’re not that interested but just want to argue. It’s the title of an article from one of the most prominent newspapers out there, it’d be the first result if you simply pasted it in Google, but rather than save yourself the embarrassment, you chose this route.

              Swing and a miss.

              The article is even better than the title.

              Among the Native Americans reached over a five-month period ending in April, more than 7 in 10 said they did not feel the word “Redskin” was disrespectful to Indians. An even higher number — 8 in 10 — said they would not be offended if a non-native called them that name.

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                  11 months ago

                  This is not about whether I’m lying or not, it’s about you preferring to stay ignorant, which proves the point that you don’t really care about the subject. If you want to close your eyes and pretend it’s nighttime, then it’s not my job to convince you otherwise.

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      11 months ago

      Yeah the only issue here is “Caucasians” is roughly similar in emotional weight to “native Americans.”

      Shirt should say like, “crackers” or something

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        11 months ago

        Cracker doesn’t even have enough contextual weight. Whitey is about as heavy as I can think of and even that doesn’t carry much weight for the people it should.

        Source: I’m literally whiter than Casper the friendly ghost, and I actually care. The Americans I’m talking about just don’t care.

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        11 months ago

        Even that word has no pull nowadays. I don’t know any white people that are even bothered by it in the least. I am one half Caucasian and I know for sure that it has no affect at all on me. I think it’s a kind of funny word, actually. We need something with more spice to it for sure. Mayo monkies? Snow roaches? Marshmallow minions?

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            11 months ago

            Eh… folks from County Mayo might feel unfairly singled out.

            I would have thought that if redskins is the settler pejorative for native americans then Paleface (or the like) is the thematic riposte.

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    11 months ago

    I’m all for it. I want the mascot to be just a normal guy named “Steve.” It’s just some white guy in a cardigan. His catch phrase is “Hi, I’m Steve, nice to meet you.”

    When the players score a touchdown, the fans all chant “Hi, I’m Steve.” The customary celebration is for the player to mime a normal handshake.