Did your Roku TV decide to strong arm you into giving up your rights or lose your FULLY FUNCTIONING WORKING TV? Because mine did.

It doesn’t matter if you only use it as a dumb panel for an Apple TV, Fire stick, or just to play your gaming console. You either agree or get bent.

  • Gork@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    Smart TVs were supposed to be better than dumb TVs.

    Now it’s the complete opposite.

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    8 months ago

    What about the one sided ability to change a contract??

    A year from now Roku pop up says “Click to Accept” , the text says **"this contract means you’ll have to give us your first born child? ** My reasoning says if they can do one then they can do the other. There is nothing that would prevent them from adding ‘fees’, or ‘subscriptions’ or simply turning off the device. (!)

    This is egregious. We bought something. In normal commerce, the contract was set in stone at that moment. The seller can’t roll up 2 years later, change the contract, force you to agree before you can use your device, and then say , well maybe if you beg, you can opt out.

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    8 months ago

    Send them a letter via registered mail stating that upon receipt of said letter they waive their right to waive your rights.

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    8 months ago

    I think you’re qualified for a full refund in most regions if you disagree with the new terms.

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    8 months ago

    NOTHING SUSPICIOUS HERE. DO NOT FEAR. SIGN AWAY FUTURE LEGAL PROTECTION BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING TO FEAR.

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    8 months ago

    Or follow the directions in section 1(L), as shown in your screenshot. That section says you can opt out by sending a letter to Roku with your name, contact info, product, Roku account email address, and receipt (if applicable). If you feel so strongly about this, opting out is not hard.

    Also those terms have been published since 2019 so I don’t know why people are only making a stink about it now. I’d bet that the dispute resolution agreement was in the same terms you agreed to the last time they changed, or when you first set it up.

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      8 months ago

      Requiring written opt out for technology that otherwise is internet connected should be considered undue burden. It should also be considered a choice the company made to reduce the number of people opting out.

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    Did you read it? That first paragraph’s last sentence refers you to the section which tells you how to opt out.

    L. 30-Day Right to Opt Out. You have the right to opt out of arbitration by sending written notice of your decision to opt out to the following address by mail: General Counsel, Roku Inc., 1701 Junction Court, Suite 100, San Jose, CA 95112 within 30 days of you first becoming subject to these Dispute Resolution Terms. Such notice must include the name of each person opting out and contact information for each such person, the specific product models, software, or services used that are at issue, the email address that you used to set up your Roku account (if you have one), and, if applicable, a copy of your purchase receipt. For clarity, opt-out notices submitted via any method other than mail (including email) will not be effective. If you send timely written notice containing the required information in accordance with this Section 1(L), then neither party will be required to arbitrate the Claims between them.

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    8 months ago

    My Roku TV’s been reset to factory and not allowed on the internet for a few years now. It’s a TV. It displays shit that I give it over HDMI. If you desire more than that you’re part of the problem. I work in IT and that’s why my home has physical locks, a 30 year old thermostat, and cameras I own with recordings on a DVR I own.

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      8 months ago

      In my experience, people that use the phrase “you’re part of the problem” so loosely are often the most miserable jackasses anyone ever allowed into society.

      People just want neat things. It’s not wrong to want neat things.

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        8 months ago

        It’s not wrong to think people are stupid for wanting pointlessly internet connected things either.

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          8 months ago

          Well sure, but we’re not talking about a washing machine or a refrigerator. Currently most media we watch is over the internet, so I at least don’t consider a TV with an internet connection “pointlessly” online.

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            8 months ago

            Okay, well you are free to enjoy having your device bricked whenever the company you bought it from wants to.

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    8 months ago

    At this point if you still have your television hooked up to the internet you deserve whatever these companies do to you. The TV would work just fine if you’d never told it about your wifi.

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      8 months ago

      never blame the powerless when the one with all the power is calling the shots

      doing so is called victim blaming and is generally frowned upon