$29.75
10% - Move the decimal. $2.975
Round up - $3.00
Half that for 5% - $1.50
15% - $4.50
Double for 20% - $6.00Or get rid of tipping.
That’s a completely separate situation.
Yes, tipping culture is out of control and needs to be abolished. But screwing over the wait staff or delivery driver currently providing you service will never have any impact on the big wigs that made the decision to play them less than minimum wage.
Why is this so difficult for people?
Pay reasonable tips for reasonable service people paid under minimum wage. Also work with your local politicians to eliminate tipping. Do not withold tips from people working under minimum wage unless you just want to be part of the boot stepping on them.
Why is this so difficult for people?
Because, for the people who refuse to “get it,” it isn’t actually about exploitation or whatever other lip service they give to make themselves seem magnanimous for not tipping, it’s about the fact that they don’t want to give the delivery driver a penny and have to lie to you and themselves so they think they’re good people. They’re not, though. If they were they’d see it like you do, they’re just selfish and deep down they know it so they concoct their lies to defer blame from their conscience.
Or perhaps I avoid services that expect tips.
No, if you do that you get it.
“Don’t give the place your money” is good,
“give the place the money but not the staff member” is bad.
If you avoid those places what I said doesn’t apply to you, you’re already doing the thing I said is better.
Nah, it’s because we don’t keep putting forth a Strawman argument. Tipped jobs are ALLOWED to pay their workers less than minimum wage IF AND ONLY IF their tips do not make up the difference. If they do not, the employer must cover it.
It is literally subsidizing the wages that otherwise the business would legally have to pay. So how do you fight back? You don’t tip and employees need to properly report their tips. The system already has the mechanism in place to fix this.
But you say this and all the people who make WAY MORE than minimum wage with their tips get up in arms because you’re daring to take away their advantage. It’s being exploited by both sides. It’s not about fair treatment for everyone, it’s about “getting mine at someone else’s expense”.
Yes and you not tipping makes a difference how exactly? By making sure the exploitative business gets enough money to keep exploiting their workers for $7.25 instead of $2.13? You’re doing great sweaty, keep it up. Don’t bother boycotting businesses as that would inconvenience you, better to help exploit the worker and then get mad at them about it, that’ll help!
Fuck outta here with your high horse.
Of course, that assumes lack of regulatory capture, a regulatory agency interested in effective enforcement, enough funding to do that enforcement, and effective protections for whistleblowing when employers threaten to fire employees who don’t report high enough tips even when they don’t receive them.
The US don’t have more than one of these (I don’t know the situation on regulatory capture, so I’m giving benefit of the doubt there).
why is the customer made the butt of the joke here?
Because they took forever to add a $1 tip to the total (as they indicate by saying it takes them a while to do the math)
To add to that they gave a low ass tip
Right? If it’s grubhub or Ubereats I wouldn’t pick that customer again
It should be the company’s responsibility to pay you properly, not the customer’s
Yes, but until such time that is happening, you are also an asshole for not tipping where people are being paid under minimum wage.
Amazingly, both of these concepts can be true simultaneously!
You not tipping the service worker will never have any impact on the company’s decision to be assholes and pay less than minimum wage.
Working with local politicians and boycotting said companies might. But most people in the US complaining about this shit want to have their cake and eat it too.
The employee shouldn’t shift blame onto the customer though. Like if the customer decides not to give you a big tip, don’t get mad at the customer. Get mad at your own employer for not paying you a living wage and expecting customers to just volunteer more money regardless of their financial situation.
regardless of their financial situation
I’m too broke to order for delivery and tip and all that. Do you know what I do? I pick up, or cook at home. I don’t engage with the service that would expect me to tip, because if I’m too poor to spend $5 on not being a huge cunt I’m too poor to spend $20 on a pizza, I’m gonna cook a damn $5 Red Baron, or $7 worth of pasta and sauce for the next two days.
If you can’t afford to tip, you can’t afford the menu price either. Source: I can’t afford the tip, and while I may have the menu price on me rn I truly need to save it because there’ll be something I need it more for later than momentary endorphins released by melted cheese.
Tips are bullshit anyway.
And that’s the delivery driver’s fault how, exactly?
That’s the customer’s fault how exactly?
The customer initiated the transaction under the conditions that currently exist.
People tip pizza guys a dollar? Man, we were tipping $5 back in the 90’s. I tip $10-$12 now. The dude just drove to my house and brought me pizza, he deserves some compensation.
Don’t they get paid by the service that decided to be in the food delivery business?
At Domino’s about 7 years ago, we got paid minimum wage, plus I think a dollar per delivery item, (multiple houses on some trips when we were busy counted each order) and then tips on top. That per order bonus I think has gone up since then.
They charged the customer a $3.50 delivery fee though.
There was also a class action suit that showed that the per delivery bonus didn’t cover the wear and tear and gas for the delivery, and could push the driver under minimum wage if they didn’t get tips.
Americans have to use their own care? Wtf?
compensation… for doing the job he is paid to do… right.
look, if you live at the end of a long shitty dirt road, or maybe the last apartment on the top floor of a 6 story walk up - then they’re going above and beyond. Hell yeah, tip more.
Tip to be nice, because times are tough and you have some extra cash.
But don’t tip because someone did the bare minimum that they get paid to do anyway.
Don’t tip because it’s expected. Don’t tip if you can’t afford it.
you, by simply spending what little you have and can, are helping pay their wage already. You’re doing your part. That is: don’t feel guilty if you can’t or don’t tip.
Do feel warm and fuzzy if you can and do tip, though. it’s still nice to do :)
Not that I agree with it, but in no time in the 90s did I know of pizza delivery that wasn’t tips-dependent, like restaurants in places. No gas reimbursement or anything at minimum. And this was in Canada where tip culture is dampened compared to the US.
