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    • UltraHamster64@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 years ago

      But there was phones from 2010s with removable batteries and water protection.

      And sony have some water resistant phones with removable batteries now

      • GaryPonderosa@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 years ago

        It’s more expensive to waterproof a phone with a removable battery. Yes, there were phones from the 2010s that were waterproof and had removable batteries, but that was a feature you had to pay extra for.

        • yetAnotherUser@feddit.deEnglish
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          2 years ago

          And phones are currently the most expensive they’ve ever been, even adjusted to inflation. Waterproofing with replacable batteries would barely dent the price, especially after a few years.

          • GaryPonderosa@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            2 years ago

            I highly doubt that they’re the most expensive they’ve ever been. iPhones and flagship phones may well be because the companies that make them know the morons that buy them will pay $1000 for a status symbol, but you can purchase new smartphones for under $200. Considering the original iPhone cost triple that, your claim seems ludicrous.

            • yetAnotherUser@feddit.deEnglish
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              2 years ago

              I’m referring to the average - obviously there’ll always be decentbudget phones with an unbeatable price-to-performance ratio.

              Here’s a source for my claim - I couldn’t find any better ones after a few minutes.

              According to this:

              The ASP [average selling price] of the North American smartphone market reached its historic Q1 record high of US$790 this year.

              Yes, the low sale of budget phones certainly contributes, however, the market for premium phones grew by 33% from last year.

              With more and more people having more and more expensive phones, how will having replacable batteries while being waterproof drive up the price?

              • GaryPonderosa@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                2 years ago

                The average is meaningless here.

                I sell a phone for 1 billion dollars. That raises the average price to a million dollars. If you go to any store and grab 100 phones at random, their pricing will not reflect the average.

                • yetAnotherUser@feddit.deEnglish
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                  2 years ago

                  That’s why the market share of premium phones increasing is especially relevant, as I said at the bottom. For instance, 45% of Apple’s sales are in this sector and Apple is the most popular phome brand in the US. Even their “budget” lineup starts at $430.

                  None of the premium phones will face a price increase because of this regulation, this much should be obvious. And since cutting edge technology quickly becomes cheaper, after two or three generations budget phones will also have replacable batteries while being waterproof while remaining as affordable as today.

                  Something that isn’t mentioned either, the cost of simply replacing batteries is much, much lower than purchasing an entirely new phone, for both you and the environment.