We’ll eventually see this period of history as being as extreme with sex crimes as the 80s were with seeing satanic cults everywhere.
With the difference that the huge number of satanic cults people assumed and talked about did not exist.
While the huge number of sexual assaults, rapes and sexual harassment sadly does exist.
I feel people are now starting to care more about putting the lid on it, by various degrees, without there being any real progress in the number of cases. People are “more aware” didn’t really lead to more empathy or more help for sexual abuse survivors. There seems to be a bigger push into the direction “well it’s just a part of life, stop talking about it already”.
I don’t think so, especially considering that we have 8 year olds on sex offender registries which is just retarded.
The problem with rape is that many times its very hard to impossible to prove, especially when time has passed. Sometimes it’s possible with messages sent to and from, sometimes with a rape kit.
But what if there was a rape without witnesses where she was so afraid that she didn’t move, and later je “simply” claims she was a consenting partner?
What if she actually was a consenting partner and then retroactively claimed it was rape?
Things get very muddy and dicey very quickly and we’re still living in a “innocent until proven guilty” society, thankfully, but it does make rape a very complicated subject
Well, what do you propose?
Is it really so hard for you to agree we should start with “not putting 8-year-olds on the sex offender registry”?
I don’t live in a country where something like that is a thing. We don’t have a register for any type of offense.
But the person I asked wrote about rape in general. That’s why I asked. It wasn’t about a register for juvenile offenders.
So, some context as to why this happens: the US does not give a fuck about how old someone is if they’re involved in the production of csam, nor does it care if it was voluntary. This means that, in the eye of the law, a teenager sending nudes to their boyfriend is just as much of a pedophile as the man shooting child porn; and their boyfriend is just as much of a pedophile for viewing and possessing them. I’m guessing that OP likely posted this after reading an article like this: https://apnews.com/article/child-images-police-columbus-cf377933b5be55297cf88c923b8f0b92
It doesn’t stop there though. I have been told to never, ever try to submit evidence to the FBI of someone being a child predator. The reason for that is because the FBI does not give a fuck. They will prosecute you as a predator, even if you’re just trying to do the right thing. Combine that with the fact that an accusation of being a predator is life-ending, even if you’re found innocent, and it encourages people to destroy evidence and stay quiet.
Finally, if there’s any csam on your PC, whether or not you’re aware of it, regardless of whether you received it voluntarily (like temp browser files from accidently viewing a hijacked website with cp on the page), you are automatically a pedophile in the eyes of US law. This is especially destructive when it comes to a video, where each frame is counted as an individual piece of csam. This means you can potentially be taken to court for hundreds or thousands of pieces of child pornography because someone embedded a clip of cp in a movie.
Fuck pedophiles, but the law needs an overhaul. In addition to the number of people who got put on the registry as kids, there are probably a lot of people who’ve gotten fucked because they were legitimately trying to do the right thing.
Edit: I could be wrong about this, the law may have changed or I may have been misinformed. It’s been a long time since I was told this, but it’s in line with the article I linked and the one OP linked, so it’s unfortunately far too believable to disregard. If there are any legal experts who can counter this, please speak up.
Edit 2: someone has replied telling me that I’m at least partially wrong, which I’m happy to hear. Still, stay safe. It seems like using csam to fuck with people, especially those in marginalized communities, is becoming more popular. Report it, clear your cache and/or temp files directory (whichever is associated with the program you had the misfortune of viewing it through), and move on. Or, to put it another way, treat it as if you accidently picked up an unshielded bar of plutonium by the side of the road. Put it down, leave the area, report it to authorities, thoroughly clean yourself off (then maybe go to the hospital).
Um, yeah, most of this is made up.
If you encounter CSAM on the web, just report it to https://report.cybertip.org/ and clear your cache. You don’t have to fill out all the detail fields; just give 'em the URL that linked to it.
But mostly, don’t go looking. Don’t try to be a brave vigilante willing to subject yourself to awfulness in order to protect children. That’s not how it works. If you go looking, folks will assume you’re participating.
Yeah it’s just absurd. The offender registry is full of victims. Sure it is. /s
There is some grain of truth in his otherwise mad babbling.
Ohio treats sexting between underage teenagers as manufacturing child pornography https://www.tribtoday.com/news/local-news/2019/01/teen-sexting-is-child-porn/
and there was the cunt bitch of a cop recently that threatened a guys 11 year old girl with arrest cause he called the police to report a guy grooming her. https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/20/us/columbus-ohio-police-officers-under-investigation/index.html
I cant find it, cause the previous story about the girl is most the searches, but I also seem to recall a story about a kid from…michigan? i think? being labeled a child porn producer because of nudes between him and his girlfriend or something, I dont know, its been a few years.
And lets not forget that you can end up on the sex offender registry for harmless things such as public urination (which tends to only happen in places that make it very difficult to access bathrooms…surely not by purpose /s) and prank streaking… and theres also been some cases of people being like…a year and a half a part in age, together from the early gate, but the second one dings 18, some disgruntled family member reports them and they end up arrested, tried, and on the sex offender registry for acts against a minor.
The funny thing is at 18 you go from being extremely protected to, literally overnight, being able to legally post a video of you having anal. It is like the magic fuck fairy shows up.
It also shows that people didn’t learn anything from it. It’s still not really about consent or about smart and healthy decisions. It’s about whether or not it’s legal and then the thinking stops.
Just because someone turns 18 doesn’t mean all considerations can stop now.
My sister was nearly put on the registry when she was 15 for slapping a friends butt in school who had decided she didn’t want to be friends with her anymore but hadn’t exactly communicated it. She chose to communicate that by accusing her of SA.
My sister avoided the registry by a mix of community service and counseling, but I always thought it was wild that she was at risk while under 18.
Yeah, I remember when everyone was starting to get decent camera phones and then news articles started popping up about high schoolers being picked up by the FBI for producing child porn by sending nudes, and their girlfriend/boyfriend for seeing them. There was a bit of panic, that was then promptly ignored because “it’d never happen to us”.
Can’t imagine how different someones life would be if they were tagged as a sex offender before even turning 18.
Pretty sure that’s the biggest reason why zoomers turned into such prudes
Prudes? How so
Gen Z statistically is having much less sex than previous generations. But more importantly, attitudes towards sex are much more negative. Being “ace” is cool. “Consent” has been taken to a ridiculous extreme, to the point that women (it’s always women…note the insidious underlying conservative tones) are seen as unable to consent to sex with men under almost any circumstances.
It’s an unholy union of the misogyny and repressive attitudes of the Right, combined with misandry and cancel culture of the Left. It takes some of the worst parts of both.
Plus it capitalizes on the current “pedophiles around every corner” moral panic.
Look around Lemmy and you’ll see it a lot. Being a normal horny teenager is deeply uncool right now.
There’s definitely been a sort of… new flavor of conservatism spring up on the left. I would say it was more mid and late era millennials who started really demanding people fall in line though. Gen-Z just sorta inherited the mess. I expect there to be a rebound effect here soon, as this over-sensitivity/over-accommodation/censorship culture is unworkable long term. We’re monkeys wearing business suits inside a violent exploitive natural world. Everything we do harms someone somewhere.
How do you transfer what you wrote to people having more or less intercourse? Where is the connection?
Without getting a signed legal consent document in advance, how do you as a young person prove that any sex act was consensual? You can’t, usually. This can breed crippling fear of real life encounters.
Can you please link to these statistics? Because I only find news articles on web sites with no statistics either, just various degrees of sensationalism without anything backing up their claims with concrete numbers or how and whom they surveyed.
Very first Google result links to several studies: https://www.newsweek.com/whats-driving-gen-zs-aversion-sex-opinion-1638228
You do know that Google results are different, for different people, right?
This also all seems to regard the US only, OP made it seem like this was a general trend.
