Cross-post 196 and NonCredibleDefense. Sh.itJustWorks

    • brodrobe@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      It is an actual Russian “divide and conquer” troll. A “warm water port” is exactly how you string that sentence together in Russian. A Texan would first of all call it a harbor (port is the word for it in Russian, so likely a direct translation), secondly wouldn’t mention that at all, since an “ice port” isn’t even a thing anywhere in the US, except for Alaska, and having an ice free one is nothing to brag about. In Russia it is a big deal and is a matter of national pride, hence the Crimea takeover. It’s more than just land to them.

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          10 months ago

          My point was - “warm water port” (which is precisely тепловодный порт) is nothing to brag about in the US, most ports here are. But it has been a largely discussed point by Russians in Russia, and primarily has been mentioned by Putin as a point of pride for Russia, as they have only 2 of those in the country.

          You’ve gotta agree, it is very odd to hear somebody who wouldn’t have been exposed to Putin’s speeches regarding the importance of “warm water ports” even mention it as a first point, especially being from Texas. Every port up and down East and West coast is a “warm water port”.

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            I’m not saying that this is what I would call a stereotypical Texan argument, but framing it like the wording immediately makes them a Russian troll is just pretty far fetched. Especially claiming that port is a weird word in its own.

        • flicker@lemmy.world
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          Alright, I’ll bite.

          I grew up in Oklahoma and Texas. Didn’t move to Tennessee until my 20s. No, we would not call it “warm water port.” I’ve literally never seen anything bigger than a pond with ice on it. Why would it occur to me to mention it’s warmth?

          And where I’m from a sentence like “be slightly more cautious with your linguistic judgements” is the kind of pretentious nonsense that gets you disinvited from the barbecue so I recommend being slightly more cautious your own damn self.

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            Yeah, see, if you can’t read my comment correctly, you might not be the best audience.

            I explicitly wrote, that warm water port wasn’t an usual term and that Texans wouldn’t call such a structure harbor, but port since their port is literally called - wait for it - port.

            Maybe a bit less BBQ and more reading comprehension would do you a favor.

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    10 months ago

    Imagine being a Texan trying to brag about having your own power grid, after dozens of people froze to death because of how shitty that power grid is.

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      10 months ago

      Why are you guys not connected to the rest of the US in the first place?

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        10 months ago

        Because they are so strong and independent would rather funnel money into their own pockets than follow regulation to make sure people don’t freeze to death in winter.

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        Because we didn’t want to follow federal regulations due to cost. Some of said regulations included winterizing measures. It was peak “leopards ate my face” material.

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        10 months ago

        Not a Texan, but as I understand if a state connects to other states then there are federal regulations that need to be followed.

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          This is exactly it. Because ERCOT is fully contained within the state of Texas they don’t have to follow any of the federal rules that would cover interstate connections in the Federal Power Act. The state can fully manage it without outside influence, and they’ve chosen to fully deregulate the entire market. Because fuck you it makes money.