• vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 year ago

    The pervasive issues with corruption in pre-war Ukraine were universally recognized, not in the last place by Ukrainian officials.

    In fact, you might remember US ambassador Yovanovitch, who was a staunch supporter of Ukraine’s anti corruption efforts, but had to go when it started interfering with President Trump’s own corruption. It was a whole thing. There was an impeachment and everything.

    Anyway, two things can be true at once. Ukraine is the victim of a horrific war of aggression by its much larger neighbor and deserves our unwavering support. Ukraine has a serious corruption problem that needs to be at least partially addressed before it can be integrated fully into the western systems.

    It’s not a slight to Ukraine to say this. It’s a recognition that we have work to do. Together.

  • Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    I might sound like a centrist, but so what. Ukraine has a problem with corruption, stood with nazi during WW2, and might still have problem with neo-nazi today.

    But how is that a reason for a full scale invasion by Russia, especially considering that Russia also has problem with corruption and neo-nazi.

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      1 year ago

      Ukraine did not exist during WW2, it could not have stood with Nazis. While some of the people probably did, so did some of everyone else. We had Americans, Brits, French, Poles and even some Russians who were traitors.

      The fact that this Russian propaganda that Ukraine is somehow Nazi actually spreads is sad…

      • taladar@feddit.de
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        1 year ago

        We had Americans, Brits, French, Poles and even some Russians who were traitors.

        Not just that but there were also Nazi-like parties in most of the other countries at the time. Germany was mostly unique in that they came to power but it is not as if that type of political movement didn’t exist elsewhere in the 1930s.