It started with notebooks, but that wasn’t the master plan.

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    7 months ago

    Surely they are aiming for a repairable and modular smartphone eventually. That’s going to be super hard to do. My guess is their next form factor will be a tablet.

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        You can get laptops that have 5G radios that you can use for data with Linux.

        As I understand it, there’s no support for voice/SMSes at the radio level, but in theory, if you were willing to tolerate it and your cell service provider offers support, you could do WiFi calling.

        Could also get service from a random other VoIP provider, use that over the data connection.

        Probably not as battery-efficient, requires more of the stack to be awake to be listening for incoming calls.

        I think that a larger downside is that Android software is designed for a touch screen and low power usage and low data usage across the board, and GNU/Linux software generally isn’t.

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          I imagine the lack of voice support presents some compliance issues with emergency calls.

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            Mmmm. I dunno. You’re talking about location availability off the hardware?

            Last month, I had to call 911 when some random druggie lit what I thought was a building on fire across the street from my car (it turned out to just be a bonfire in the parking lot; figured that out while running over). I didn’t know the cross-street for my location, and asked the dispatcher if she could just send the fire department to the location she got from my cell phone via E911. She had no idea what I was talking about, needed me to manually provide location.

            So I’m not totally sure, at least in the US, what the compliance requirements are for availability of location information.

            If you’re talking about 911 usability without logging into a phone from a lock screen, I don’t think that that’d create any issues – that’s all software, can do whatever if you’re doing the OS.

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              More referring to selling a device classified as a mobile phone that might not be able to connect to emergency services without any tinkering. My google-fu is failing me now, but I’m trying to see what the actual requirements are, if they exist at all, to sell a mobile phone. All I’m seeing is that the radio shall connect to any available base stations during an emergency call regardless of subscriber status.

              I don’t know how the linux phone OS’s are handling these kind of interactions with their baseband processing, if at all.

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                This is handled in the modem Firmware. Linux just has to supply “User has dialed number x, go into emergency mode” and then route the audio.

                This is solved for all Linux phones as far as I know. From Openmoko over N900 till Librem 5.

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      7 months ago

      Why not just use type c headphones?

      The 3.5mm thing has always baffled me, it feels like complaining your pc doesn’t have a VGA port, except the thing you connect costs like a fiver

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        At the time, there weren’t really many good options for replacement devices.

        Using the charging port means listening to music and charging at the same time wasn’t possible.

        Now we have split-cable dongles for power banks, and we have wireless charging when possible. It’s better but it’s not great; both have downsides, and accessories are more $.

        Do they make type C headphones with a powerbank in them? Do I want a lithium battery that large on my head?

        There aren’t many upsides for the consumer or the environment. Still seems to me like this isn’t even a lateral move. Internal components have gotten smaller and more efficient since, so that space could be reclaimed. I really don’t need my phone to be that thin, a phono jack next to the charging port would be just fine. The only real downside might be waterproofing but if you can make it work for the type C port…

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        Just replace my perfectly good $200 headphones that work in my (old) phone, my Switch, my 3DS, my laptop, my iPod, and my work phone.

        It’s so simple!

        Seriously, even if you don’t use it, why are you so against others having the choice? The headphone *jack was the standard for decades for a reason. If my phone is low on power, I’d like to be able to charge it without disconnecting my music/podcasts…

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          But like, 3.5 to usbc is a 10 buck conversion. Tbh i see merit in double usb c over usbc and headphone jack, might be more doable too, the DAC prolly takes more space than an additional usbc

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              It’s not a work-around, a headphone requires a DAC and an amp. In fact, my phone has a crap DAC causing artifacts in the sound. It’s actually not to my benefit to have the jack because I’d get better sound with the external DAC which is transparent.

              So the jack works, but the DAC you get can be whatever the manufacturer considers good enough.

              DACs I can hear issues in:

              My phone, my tablet, my desktop PC

              DACs that are transparent to me:

              My laptop, my $12 external DAC