Airfare has to be the winner here right? With the way our global economy is currently set up we still require airplanes to deliver goods and people vast distances quickly.
I’d much rather eat veggies anyway. I’ve just grown to recently really like vegetables more than the meat part of a meal.
Medical supplies yes, but not shit like flowers, cherries, or tourists. Tourism is oversold and I’m so done. Especially cruise ships, just using international waters to dump their garbage
On that note: we really need some regulation on what’s allowed on open ocean. It’s to important of an eco system to survive without regulations.
And you enforce them at port.
Since I fly only like once every 20 years, I say neither.
How about instead this “personal responsibility” bullshit we focus on the actual causes of global warming, I.e. massive corporations that create the majority of greenhouse gasses
Why has it to be either, or? We need both. Systemic and behavioural changes on all levels. And we need it now. We no longer have any time left to shift the blame back and forth! I’m getting so sick of this blame game!
It’s 100% personal responsibility, it’s just that part of that responsibility is to vote/convince others for more systemic change. All the kids just blaming the “biggest 100 companies” while not voting and making no lifestyle changes are just as bad as the people they critizise.
If you put it this way: sure. And those famous “biggest 100 companies”, which are constantly used as a cheap excuse to not do anything on a personal level, are run by maybe 1,000 or so individuals. And employ a few 100,000 individuals.
All decisions are 100% personal responsibility, because entities like corporations or nations can’t decide anything. It’s always individual people.
Haven’t eaten meat for over 10 years. Other than having to manage my feelings of superiority nothing much has changed.
Change needs to be a lot more radical than reducing global CO2 by… maybe 20%?
If we live plant-based we’ll need a lot of less land. We’d need some serious land to free up this land for the wild and rebuild eco systems. And it would still not be enough, because the rising heat will just destroy it anyway.
So expensive sequestering technology at source needs to be made mandatory globally and everybody will feel the hit of that. Producing (and sequestering) CO2 will be so expensive that the market will find viable, cheaper alternatives.
Flying, I haven’t been on a plane in 25 years, and I have no plans to ever get on one again. But I love a good steak.
I don’t know how long it has been, but I haven’t had a compelling reason to fly since before 9/11/2001. I guess that’s about 25 years.
For me, both price and time are very compelling reasons to fly, unfortunately.
The state of the environment is an even more compelling reason for me not to. But for many people it’s not. That’s why the price of flying must be raised enough, and alternatives like traveling by train must be made more attractive. So that there is enough reason not to fly for everyone.
High speed trains exist, just not in places like the USA. We could have more environmentally friendly coupled with similar time convenience. It’s truly unfortunate that it’s never been invested in, because its a viable and much less damaging alternative.
I live in Germany, where high speed trains are the norm and traveling by train is pretty common. It’s still much more expensive than flying. But at least it’s getting faster and faster, to a point where it beats traveling by car or even plane. Munich to Berlin (600 km) in less than four hours, nothing can beat that.
Is it even possible to give up flying?
Very yes.
If I had to go to Europe or Japan, how am I supposed to accomplish that?
You don’t have to.
I get it. You guys are just trolling.
Why do you need though? Just make a zoom call.
