• Mr_Blott@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    If you want to be taken seriously about child abuse, have you tried not having thumbnails that look like a ten-year-old made them 😂

  • andruid@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Couldn’t the fact that AI generated content be reproduceable if give the exact parameters(or coordinates in latent space) and model help remove the confusion? Include those as meta data and train investigators on how to use to distinguish generated content from actual evidence.

    • Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de
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      1 year ago

      There’s an option to speed up generation but it will make it less deterministic, like in it’s 98% the same image but a little different. Also it’s very hard to reproduce the same hard and software generation. That’s the first issue.

      The second is: I had examples of images with generation data, that I could reproduce to look 99% like the original and then just updating a single word or part of the training data (different Lora version for example) , switched the person away or their appearance changed a completely. (Imagine a picture of a street and a car is suddenly not there, or it’s blue instead of red). It will make reproducibility not a reliable option. Backgrounds of images are even less reliable than the focus object.

  • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    There is no such thing.

    God dammit, the entire point of calling it CSAM is to distinguish photographic evidence of child rape from made-up images that make people feel icky.

    If you want them treated the same, legally - go nuts. Have that argument. But stop treating the two as the same thing, and fucking up clear discussion of the worst thing on the internet.

    You can’t generate assault. It is impossible to abuse children who do not exist.

  • Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    While lolicon is absolutely disgusting, its not actually csam. Legislation won’t work either and is honestly a waste of time. Any effort spent protecting digital children should instead be spent protecting real ones.

    • MuchPineapples@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      The problem is that it’s not just cartoon characters, but also realistic looking people. That makes it, especially in the next years when the techniques improve, impossible to know what is fake and what is not and thus the fake ones should also be banned. And these models are trained on images of actual abused children, which of course is the main problem with this.