People at Bonn protesting against Nazi cunts singing Ode to Joy

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      8 months ago

      Well, you should read the Partys Program, look info what their leaders say and realize it was a mistake. If you think they are right in their views, you may just be an asshole, sry about that.

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        8 months ago

        Just so you know, spez is the colossal dickhead CEO of Reddit, who fucked everything up and caused the Reddit exodus. This is a troll account.

      • Kornblumenratte@feddit.de
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        8 months ago

        Well, I did read their 2023 Party Program, and I’m afraid it’s pretty polished to appear mainstream. I was shocked on how many points appealed to me on first glance, like plebiscites, the prohibition for judges to be affiliated with a political party, universal basic income or transparent financing of political parties.

        You have to actually study it, interpret it with their mindset in mind and compare it to the populist playbook used in countries like Italy, Hungary or Poland to detect the underlying fascism. It’s a shiny piece of deception.

        It might be worth to write a comment on it.

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          That’s the “neat” thing about the party and their voters: They are used to not base things on facts. So they write one thing into their party program and do the other thing or not, just like they want and they promise a third thing in conflict with the first two. E.g. according to their program oft 2023 the reforms they want would help the rich, but all their voters (which are poor on average) believe that their polices would help them.

          Btw some crazy points from their program:

          • Abolish any inheritance tax
          • Set a total max for the amount of money you have to pay taxes for, so if you are rich earn more and don’t pay a cent!
          • They went from “there is no climate change” to “climate change always happened, we have nothing to do with it, CO2 is a essential part of live, we should make more!”
          • Stop all wind energy projects
          • “Landwirtschaft: Mehr Wettbewerb. Weniger Subventionen” Which translates to “More competition and less subsidies for agriculture” and still they manage to claim the farmer protests for them.
          • Kids born in Germany should not have a chance to German citizenship if the parents do not have it. Regardless if they live their whole live here.
          • Ignore EU policies when convenient, reimplement border controls (or in other words, leave the EU)
          • Strive for assimilation of migrants (Yes the use the word “Assimilation”)
          • Only grant asylum to people which can fill job roles where there is a provable gap in demand and local workforce.
          • Do not mention homosexuality in school
          • Do not grant any abortion rights, force any consultant to persuade a pregnant women to keep the child.

          And I could go on. I think its pretty obvious what kind of political party they are, even from their program. Sure they have some good points in there too, but so do other parties which are not far-right and science deniers.

          • gian @lemmy.grys.it
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            Btw some crazy points from their program:

            Abolish any inheritance tax
            

            That not seems that crazy. I mean, someone lost his beloved one and in addition to his grieve he has to pay a tax. Right…

            You lost your parents and you pay the state for the privilege to keep their inheritance… Sounds good this way ? (and no, to the rich people it change nothing)

            “Landwirtschaft: Mehr Wettbewerb. Weniger Subventionen” Which translates to “More competition and less subsidies for agriculture” and still they manage to claim the farmer protests for them.
            

            On this I have a double feeling. On one hand I have seen the disasters of the subsidies to the agricolture like the milk quotas and the farmer paid to not cultivate the field while importing product from outside, on the other hand this make sense only if you eliminate the unfair competition from outside and make everyone play by the same rules.

            Kinds born in Germany should not have a chance to German citizenship if the parents do not have it. Regardless if they live their whole live here.
            

            Stupid idea, I agree.

            Ignore EU policies when convenient, reimplement border controls (or in other words, leave the EU)
            

            As long as they are prepared to be ignored by the others… and no, border control does not means to leave the EU. It means check what and who enter in your country, because I don’t see the problem with border controls that keep the illegal people and goods out of my country.

            But I see what they mean and I agree with you.

            Only grant asylum to people which can fill job roles where there is a provable gap in demand and local workforce.
            

            Mmm… asylum should be granted only to people in danger for some serious reason, in other words it should be an exceptional case, not the norm. I agree it is really stupid to tie it to fact that who ask for it should be able can cover for a local workforce gap.

            So yes, they have some very stupid ideas, but other does not seems too bad and I am sure that if some other parties would propose them in a better language they would be approved by a large part of the population.

            But as long as the people (and who is in charge) don’t understand that afd and all the parties like it are a consequence and not a cause the problem will be never solved.

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              8 months ago

              Just so you know, inheritance tax in Germany inly kicks in, if the inheritance is over 500.000 Euros and then it is 20% I believe. So your argument actually falls a tad short here.

              Also the current competition in agriculture only promote the commulation of farms into companies. The farmers who actually need support don’t get it, which further accelerates the industrialisation of farming. Which is what the protest is about, not that many farmers get that they are being exploited by their own lobbyists and the AfD.

              Lastly, while the AfD has for some time been saying they want the EU to stay and Germany being part of it, they are now discussing a German Exit. As if that did any good for the UK. It would likely be even worse for Germany. My guess is, that they felt offended by Meloni for saying that they would not work with the AfD on anything.

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      8 months ago

      In Germany millions are protesting against our fascist party AfD, after they unveiled their mass deportation plans.

      • gian @lemmy.grys.it
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        8 months ago

        Look great.

        Now I am expeting the same millions of people protesting the things that let afd to grow.

        Remember, afd is a consequence not a cause.

      • Int_not_found@feddit.de
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        8 months ago

        If you had to boil down, the german constitution into one short sentence, it would be ‘Never again’.

        So displaying the german flag at such an occasion, is acually one of the few occasions where it is appropriate to use it in an political context IMHO.

        And as a bonus point it gives nazis a taste of there own medicine, by taking symbols & language used by the opposition for your own movement. But in an non-stupid way this time.