People need to realize you can use alternatives
I started off on lemmy.ml before the deluge and then today it’s basically inaccessible so I started up a new account over at lemmy.world. I browse by All anyway so I haven’t really noticed a difference.
In german “All” is used as a translation for “space” Its really fitting for a place where all the different instances merge into one universe.
I think people naturally tend toward the servers of the people that started the project and also the servers that have the most people on them. As the federated technology continues to smooth out I think more people might be more comfortable spreading out to other servers.
Personally I started out on the Beehaw server but they had some rules I didn’t like so then I found another server.
This might become a hurdle in the future. If for any reason some of the big instances die off it might lead to a cascading effect killing the whole Project.
Hoepfully people will just spread out and even the load.
The documentation explaining how fediverse works is so bad. It’s so long and convoluted anyone new just can’t be bothered reading it.
Docu-what now?
Seriously, if the average user needs to understand distributed systems to play in the fediverse pool, they are going to land back at Reddit. Just get people in the door (any door) and fight the technical debt that creates later.
Sure, it’s a shit plan. But, it’s the only way to really capitalise on the current moment. With both Twitter and Reddit blasting away at their own feet, there is a real opportunity for something better to step up. The fediverse can be that thing. But, not if people end up gatekeeping it. Less Stallman style, “RTFM!” And more, “hey, welcome. Let’s get you set up.”
Well, that’s my point. We need a cheat sheet easy to read that gives most of the necessary information to create an account and use different instances and how to post from one to another.
https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/index.html is good but way too much for newcomers
I agree, the first page is already too much text, where is the easy to consume infographic explaining it in comic style? :/
Lemmy.world checking in
It will be interesting how many instances we will have in the future and if there will be some instances that mainly exist to get certain words into your username for the other instances. Much like some domains already work for example .tv.
I could se myslve going for a @bigboss.world kinda name.
First I created account there and then landed on my current instance, because lemmy.ml’s admin views looks sketchy for me. Been living in ex-ussr for all my life I just cant accept all that communists and marxists and the fact that lemmy.ml has /c/Communism on it.
I know that’s silly but that’s why I’m not there anymore.
Oh no ;_;
Any recommended communities? (or ones to avoid)
Everything from beehaw.org is nice. Even stuff on lemmy.ml is okay as long you don’t bring up politics. Stay away from news or politics subs on this instance. And I hope we will get bigger communities on other servers than lemmy.ml or beehaw.org.
Don’t look at me I’m on feddit.de
But that’s a German speaking instance, so it’s not suitable for everyone
Lern Deutsch du Lemmysohn :-*
Kommentarbereich: annektiert!
Ich kann deutsch, du Schlampenabkömmling
If I want to comment on another insurance such as beehaw.org, do I need to create a different account or can I log in with one that I created on lemmy.ml?
No you don’t need an additional account. You can follow communities from wherever** you are.
** some instances might be blocked
* at the front of a line is used as markdown to create bullet points. Be sure to use the escape character \ if you don’t want to do that.
- No escape
* escape
Looks like
\* this
To you
thx, good to know :)
I’m on .world because I had no idea which to join. Seems to be working just fine for me; I can see tons of posts from other places!
My instance has a cool name 😎
Hey, mine too!
🤝
tbf people just wanna sign up and click on funny links, not browse through 100 rando instances to find the one that lines up with their exact interests and wait for approval and worry about uptime and whether their instance will still exist in a year
Let me see if I underatand this correctly:
If I create an account on a random, small instance. And then go to the “all communities” feed. I can automatically see all communities that are in my instance. In addition to that, I can see all communities of other Lemmy instances, that are “federated”. But I cannot see other communities from other nstances, unless I go on there, find the communitis and manually subscribe to them (I believe there are other ways to get them to show up, like using the search etc.?)
So, as a normal user. Who’s just looking for a replacement for /r/all, wouldn’t joining the largest lemmy instance that is fedarated to many others (Just by how many users it has, because it’s the users who link instances by their actions?) make perfect sense?
I feel that, while lemmy is still a work in progress, it is already pretty adequate for solving this need. If you want to subscribe to other instances you can do it from within your insance by going up to communities and searching. You can also click the all tab and see a bunch of instances from around lemmy that your instance is federated with.
I think mastadon struggled with this because the twitter model is to follow people and depending how far removed the servers are this can be trickier. Compared to lemmy where people interested in a single subject will likely target and find the subject theyre interested in and bring themselves together naturally.
Furthermore I think some people are splitting up and dividing into sub instances and tiny subjects a little prematurely. Reddit didnt get super esoteric with it’s subs until it got big and the larger subs either declined or got too noisy to talk about certain things. Like for example how beehaw has an operatingsystems instance instead of a linux, ubuntu, macos, windows, fedora, archinux, opensuse, openbsd, etc. Right now there arent enough of us that we dont need to subdivide.
I’ve seen people literally signing up here just to make like 50 empty communities and not post or comment on anything at all. Definitely a lot of folks just trying to stake some territory that they think will be valuable in the future.
Good thing this is pretty pointless, since I can have the same community name in another instance.
As someone who intentionally joined a different instance, the biggest issue is the “federation” doesn’t allow cross-authentication. Clicking a link to another instance moves me to that instance where I’m not logged in. Authentication should really be cross-instance.
This is something I also find strange. If I click a link to an instance, I want to view their content and not visit their homepage, where I am not logged in and cannot do anything.
assuming the servers are properly federated you should be getting a link that is still on your server. i mean, you got to this lemmy.ml link alright at least
wait, i think i get what you mean, like if you get an external link while not browsing on your instance? you should just be able to paste that link into the search function to find your instance’s version of the post
If I click the link you provided, my browser takes me to Lenny.ml. There I am not logged in and my credentials from feddit.de are not working. So I cannot post there.
I think it only works if the link points to a community on another instance. Like !memes@lemmy.ml . Maybe this is the intended behavior.
The downside is, you can not visit an instance and view the local communities and their post and interact with them. This makes it a lot more attractive to join the instance where the communities are you want to frequent.
Edit: the link to the community does not work either for me. But I am kind of sure, that there are links that work as intended and make you just view the community from your own insurance…
feddit.de but we’ve had some heavy load an hour ago.
Yeah, I think the performance isn’t that great a lot of times, the page isn’t loading at all. At least yesterday.
Coincidentally just when r/ich_iel went private.
Gotta see a lot of „Sprich Deutsch du Hurensohn“ here in the near future.
SPRICH
DEUTSCH
Only part of Ich_iel i really dislike.
Does someone know if the dutch equivalent is migrating here as well?
I just joined my own countries server. Works fine.
Same. Let’s not give a single instance too mutch power.
99.99% don’t really want or understand a federated system. How do you know it’s not hosted on someone’s desktop over DSL? How do you know it will be there tomorrow? How do you know they aren’t modifying the code to do something nefarious?
As long as there’s a “main” instance people will prioritize that.
True, i would like to federate the account too, so we could semlessly switch instance if there is a problem.
I definitely didnt pick sh.itjust.works for the funny name, naaaaaaaaah
you are marked as ‘robot account’ on leemy.sdf.org
at a guess, I think its because I’m using Jerboa for Lemmy but I don’t know for sure, I haven’t done anything to become one.
Do you often drink oil? 🤖
I find it is nice to just join a server you enjoy at its core and then simply use the “all” sort of thing. I can see from other servers what is popular and can comment and upvote and downvote. It’s all very seamless even if I am not in that home server
Preach. And I love that you can easily sub to communities (sublemmys?) from other instances like they were on your own. The machinery is running quite smooth
