I have never heard anyone being scolded for that but then again this is common sense from where i come from so everyone sorts recipients by importance.
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I don’t get what is so outrageous e.g. this order boss > colleagues > intern
Wrong. Boss ALWAYS goes in the “To” field regardless of who the message is addressed to. You don’t want them to receive a copy of the email rather than the original! /s
Common sense? Certainly not. I never do that. I just add people as they come to my mind. Sometimes I order by how important the mail might be for them (which is roughly the same thing, usually). If I had to work in an environment where people are so self-absorbed that they determine their worth from the order of the names in the carbon copy recipients list of an email, I’d look for another place to work in.
So if you send email to the owner of the company and to your colleagues on same level you put boss at last spot if they come to your mind as last?
BTw read what i wrote, again. There is no mention of it being mandatory in my post . It’s similar thing to as when we used to hold door to next person so they don’t get smashed by it. edit> I don’t get what’s so enraging on voluntarily ordering recipient in the mail boss > colleagues > intern.
So if you send email to the owner of the compane and to your colleagues on same level you put boss at last spot if they come to your mind as last?
Exactly. That’s how I always did it and will keep doing it. Anything else sounds absolutely weird to me.
There is no mention of it being mandatory in my post
There kind of is. Because you make it sound like it’s not a written rule per se but still very much a social convention that people kind of expect you to follow.
It’s similar thing to as when we used to hold door to next person so they don’t get smashed by it. boss > colleagues > intern.
So this is where it gets really weird. What is that even supposed to mean? How is the position in the company relevant to holding doors? If there’s an intern behind me, I hold his door open. If it’s the boss I do the same. Just like I’d expect both of them to do the same for me and each other. What is your list even supposed to mean? You don’t hold doors for interns? Your boss doesn’t do it for you? What kind of sociopathic hellhole of a system do you work in? Do you participate in that?
I once worked in a company where my supervisor demanded I’d prepare coffee for him and completely lost it when I wanted to discuss how exactly that was part of my job as a researcher. His point was that his boss had always expected his orders to be followed, no questions asked, and he’d expect the same thing from me. Needless to say I left that fucker as soon as I had another contract available (and never prepared his fucking coffee). This kind of hierarchical thinking may be appropriate for the army but certainly not for an ordinary company.
No there’s nothing mandatory and i said i have never seen anyone get scolded for not doing it. It’s just common sense , it;'s being thought in communication courses etc just like when picking up phone you first say greetings, say company name, then your name. Because caller usually knows company and greetings but is having hard time catching your name if it;s first thing to they get “shot” at them upon you answering the phone call.
Last thing is typo from smartphone, holding door and order of recipient in email doesn’t belong to the same sentence. .
It’s bewildering to me how you don’t see the contradiction here. If you say it’s common sense then it’s so ingrained into your work culture that it might not be mandatory but still very well part of the unwritten laws governing how you work together. Not being scolded for not following it does not mean that people will not talk about it behind your back. These rules are the foundation of mobbing and bullying. None of that is an official rule but it can very well be considered mandatory if you say it’s common sense to follow it.
it;'s being thought in communication courses etc just like when picking up phone you first say greetings, say company name, then your name.
I was never taught any of this and I also don’t do that. Company name first? Never did that and never had anybody mention to me that I should change my behaviour in that regard.
Everything you say sounds weird as fuck to me. Would you mind telling me what country you’re from?
Because it is inane bullshit. You receive the email no matter where on the array your fucking name is. It is complete and utter sociopathy to enforce hierarchical chest-thumping on it. Only people who’s work is so without value that they need to source it from pissing on others “below” them would care about it.
I have never heard anyone being scolded for that but then again this is common sense from where i come from so everyone sorts recipients by importance. Edit: I don’t get what is so outrageous e.g. this order boss > colleagues > intern
Wrong. Boss ALWAYS goes in the “To” field regardless of who the message is addressed to. You don’t want them to receive a copy of the email rather than the original! /s
Common sense? Certainly not. I never do that. I just add people as they come to my mind. Sometimes I order by how important the mail might be for them (which is roughly the same thing, usually). If I had to work in an environment where people are so self-absorbed that they determine their worth from the order of the names in the carbon copy recipients list of an email, I’d look for another place to work in.
So if you send email to the owner of the company and to your colleagues on same level you put boss at last spot if they come to your mind as last?
BTw read what i wrote, again. There is no mention of it being mandatory in my post . It’s similar thing to as when we used to hold door to next person so they don’t get smashed by it. edit> I don’t get what’s so enraging on voluntarily ordering recipient in the mail boss > colleagues > intern.
Exactly. That’s how I always did it and will keep doing it. Anything else sounds absolutely weird to me.
There kind of is. Because you make it sound like it’s not a written rule per se but still very much a social convention that people kind of expect you to follow.
So this is where it gets really weird. What is that even supposed to mean? How is the position in the company relevant to holding doors? If there’s an intern behind me, I hold his door open. If it’s the boss I do the same. Just like I’d expect both of them to do the same for me and each other. What is your list even supposed to mean? You don’t hold doors for interns? Your boss doesn’t do it for you? What kind of sociopathic hellhole of a system do you work in? Do you participate in that?
I once worked in a company where my supervisor demanded I’d prepare coffee for him and completely lost it when I wanted to discuss how exactly that was part of my job as a researcher. His point was that his boss had always expected his orders to be followed, no questions asked, and he’d expect the same thing from me. Needless to say I left that fucker as soon as I had another contract available (and never prepared his fucking coffee). This kind of hierarchical thinking may be appropriate for the army but certainly not for an ordinary company.
No there’s nothing mandatory and i said i have never seen anyone get scolded for not doing it. It’s just common sense , it;'s being thought in communication courses etc just like when picking up phone you first say greetings, say company name, then your name. Because caller usually knows company and greetings but is having hard time catching your name if it;s first thing to they get “shot” at them upon you answering the phone call.
Last thing is typo from smartphone, holding door and order of recipient in email doesn’t belong to the same sentence. .
It’s bewildering to me how you don’t see the contradiction here. If you say it’s common sense then it’s so ingrained into your work culture that it might not be mandatory but still very well part of the unwritten laws governing how you work together. Not being scolded for not following it does not mean that people will not talk about it behind your back. These rules are the foundation of mobbing and bullying. None of that is an official rule but it can very well be considered mandatory if you say it’s common sense to follow it.
I was never taught any of this and I also don’t do that. Company name first? Never did that and never had anybody mention to me that I should change my behaviour in that regard.
Everything you say sounds weird as fuck to me. Would you mind telling me what country you’re from?
Because it is inane bullshit. You receive the email no matter where on the array your fucking name is. It is complete and utter sociopathy to enforce hierarchical chest-thumping on it. Only people who’s work is so without value that they need to source it from pissing on others “below” them would care about it.