Some young American workers are moving to Europe in hopes of a healthier and happier life.

  • HollandJim@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    25 years I’ve been abroad (The Netherlands) and the work-life balance is why I stayed. They insist I take days off (still foolishly work like an American) and have already booked out a 3 week vacation for later in the year…and I’ll still have nearly 2 weeks of vacation left. We can roll a few weeks of vacation over to the next year if not used. Even though the Dutch have NO holidays from June to Christmas, I’m still able to take 4 day weekends when I want to.

    The downside is family left behind may begin to resent you. My family have developed this red-hat victim culture. I can’t bring up how I live abroad or else it starts fights - they don’t want to talk to me now.

    • kilgore@feddit.de
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      1 year ago

      Same with the resentment! Lots of people in the US don’t want to hear how much better it is elsewhere. GrEaTesT NaTiOn oN eArTh!

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        1 year ago

        It’s funny, because if you’re living in the US and bringing up topics (like e.g. healthcare, parental leave, vacation time, sick days, the school system, universal access to universities and higher education, traffic deaths, gun violence, etc. etc. etc.) the reaction is often “well, if you hate it so much, why don’t you just leave?”

        And then, when you actually leave and live a much more enjoyable and happy life elsewhere, the reaction is “we don’t want to hear about it!!!”

    • itzpea@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      Jealous! I’d love to be able to move out of the US, but seems you need certain jobs in order to go. Don’t think I qualify, so will continue to be a slave to the system here.

      • woobwub@feddit.de
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        1 year ago

        Dunno how old you are, but you can take a loan to study in Europe, get a job, and decide whether you want to pay back the loan or not. If you plan on never returning to the US, then AFAIK, you don’t have to pay back shit and there’s nothing they can do. Although, maybe that changed when the USA started demanding taxes from Americans abroad and forcing banks to close their accounts abroad too… who knows.

        Anyway, it’ll probably be cheaper for you to move to Europe.

        • AlexisFR@jlai.lu
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          1 year ago

          Ah yes, let’s commit international credit fraud, I’m sure it’ll be fine…

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            1 year ago

            I know somebody who actually did it and returns frequently to visit. And is it international if the bank is in the US? 🤔

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            1 year ago

            Pretty much what u/woobwub said, I just want to add that here in Germany, all kinds of craftspeople (like carpenters, plumbers, electricians, construction workers, tile setters, you name it) are in desperate demand, with demographic change probably being the biggest reason. Companies offering these services are overbooked and can demand ludicrous prices, while simultaneously lamenting about not being able to get young, motivated apprentices.

            To be fair, a lot of said companies still pay their apprentices peanuts while treating them like shit and blaming their staff shortage on the lazy young generation not wanting to work. But if you’re a qualified worker in any of these professions, most companies would gladly hire someone like you. If, and here’s the big catch, if you can speak German somewhat fluently. And our language is a confusing clusterfuck to learn, or so I’ve heard.

            Anyhow, best of wishes to you and your son (and family), whether you manage to emigrate to a less latestage-capitalism-infested country or try and build up a good life in the US.

          • woobwub@feddit.de
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            1 year ago

            You might not know how much you can do. If refugees can travel from Afghanistan all the way to France with their entire family, you can do it from the US. Dunno what you’re doing, but crafts and trades jobs are also understaffed across Europe. Germany is even trying to be attractive to nurses all the way from India!

            Don’t underestimate yourself.

    • Sodis@feddit.de
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      1 year ago

      I also moved to the Netherlands recently (but from Germany) and their holiday schedule feels really weird to me. You get a lot from April to June and then nothing until Christmas. They should’ve spaced that out better.

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        1 year ago

        Germany isn’t that much better, in most states you get two public holidays between June and December, 3rd October and either reformation day or all-saints’ day, and those can all be on the weekend so in a bad year you get zero additional days off.

        • Sodis@feddit.de
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          1 year ago

          I am from Saxony and there you get Buß- und Bettag, that’s always a Wednesday. You still get 2 holidays four times out of six years in the worst case in other states.

      • skitlex@sh.itjust.works
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        1 year ago

        You do know that most public holidays are based on christian events right? Spacing those out is only possible if we separate those days from religion.

        The statuary minimum holiday entitlement of 20 days (most employers give 25+) can be used freely.

        • Sodis@feddit.de
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          1 year ago

          I mean, they kinda place King’s/Queen’s Day how it suits them. And there are possible Christian holidays in the second half of the year as well.

            • Sodis@feddit.de
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              1 year ago

              Sure, that’s why they kept it at the 30.4., when Beatrix got queen, who has her birthday on 31.1.