• edric@lemm.ee
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    10 days ago

    What are the Maverick and Santa Cruz classified as? I think they fit the small or light truck category, if they are categorized as trucks at all.

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      10 days ago

      A Maverick is a light truck in much the same way a 737 is a small plane. Sure there are bigger ones, but it’s a 4 door truck with a 4 foot bed that’s high enough to make loading and unloading harder than it needs to be. It’s twice the weight and almost twice the size of a 70s/80s Toyota Pickup, which is a light truck.

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          8 days ago

          I own two mavericks, it’s a fair comparison. They only look small because of the size of today’s vehicles… in the 1980’s you’d see most of today’s lifted trucks in a monster truck rally.

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            8 days ago

            Oh yes, that part is obvious. I was more curious where “twice the size” came from, especially if comparing a four-door truck to a two-door single cab which I’d argue isn’t a fair comparison. Although, they don’t make the maverick in a single cab do they?

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        9 days ago

        A Nissan Hardbody is one of the small trucks people keep complaining aren’t made anymore.

        Dimensions of the 4 doors variant: length 5.1m, width 1.8m, height 1.7m

        Maverick dimensions (biggest model just to prove the point): length 5.1m, width 1.84m, height 1.76m

        It’s the same thing with all trucks, compared to the equivalent model (i.e. not comparing a 2 doors with a crew cab like the anti truck crowd loves to do) modern trucks look much bigger but it’s a design and height thing more than anything, their length and width hasn’t increased that much, especially if you compare with cars of the same model over the same period (1985 Civic sedan vs 2025 Civic sedan for example).

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            9 days ago

            I’m saying the difference isn’t a big as what some people pretend when you’re comparing the same versions.

            Short box regular cab vs long box crew cab, that’s what people usually use as a comparison to prove their point even though it makes no sense to do so.

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      10 days ago

      Hybrids meet CAFE.

      But their towing and carrying capacity versus the old Rangers and S-10s is pitiful.

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      10 days ago

      Light trucks, which means less CAFE regulation. Same classification as crossovers (why crossovers are so popular).

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        10 days ago

        That’s not accurate. “Light Truck” also includes a crew cab F150 with an extended bed that requires a Sherpa to enter. The Maverick and an F150 have the same standards, but weighted based on vehicle footprint.

        But the Maverick standard model is a hybrid, so it meets CAFE standards.