The very same media keeps asking democrats to go more to the right to act the moderate / centrist role, why isn’t that any good when they copy this from Republicans? /s
That’s the point of Trump’s leadership style. Things aren’t equal. There are rules for other people, but they don’t affect him though. Hypocrisy among his flock is a virtue. It shows they will all reward each other.
When presented with the American constitution or trump, and they chose trump, its self evident that they just want a king.
So many well meaning centrists and left leaning people in America have cut maga so much slack for 8 years…
Maga definitionally wants to replace the United states constitution and establishment. The conversation should be happening on those terms. But most the outspoken left leaning voices are too scared.
They are bigots. But they can’t do that. They were there for 4 years and didn’t and couldn’t do it. I don’t see that happening if the neonazi becomes president.
I’m not asking Dems to break the rules. I would like Dems to treat the left as actual partners and take their policy seriously, instead of “we need those people to shut up or Republicans are going to burn down everything”. Republicans do not do that with their own reactionaries. They mine them for ideas and find ways to implement those policies through a long game.
Now that is a stance I can get behind. That’s just not the initial impression that’s given from the statement “we should start acting like the Republicans do”.
They go lower regardless. “When they go low, we go high!” has become “alright guys, they’re putting trans people in the showers, but at least we played by the rules! It’s important that everyone had fun!”
Oh… it’s mocking when Dems do it…
Why isn’t it just behavioural parity?
Are both sides not allowed to behave the same? Be equal?
The very same media keeps asking democrats to go more to the right to act the moderate / centrist role, why isn’t that any good when they copy this from Republicans? /s
Never have been
Well the first step in changing that is expecting that… And talking as if it expected…
That’s the point of Trump’s leadership style. Things aren’t equal. There are rules for other people, but they don’t affect him though. Hypocrisy among his flock is a virtue. It shows they will all reward each other.
When presented with the American constitution or trump, and they chose trump, its self evident that they just want a king.
So many well meaning centrists and left leaning people in America have cut maga so much slack for 8 years…
Maga definitionally wants to replace the United states constitution and establishment. The conversation should be happening on those terms. But most the outspoken left leaning voices are too scared.
They are bigots. But they can’t do that. They were there for 4 years and didn’t and couldn’t do it. I don’t see that happening if the neonazi becomes president.
No, because democratic voters at least occasionally have principles.
I get what you’re saying here, but if Dems start acting “equivalently” to Republicans we’re gonna have a real big, serious problem.
I’m not asking Dems to break the rules. I would like Dems to treat the left as actual partners and take their policy seriously, instead of “we need those people to shut up or Republicans are going to burn down everything”. Republicans do not do that with their own reactionaries. They mine them for ideas and find ways to implement those policies through a long game.
Now that is a stance I can get behind. That’s just not the initial impression that’s given from the statement “we should start acting like the Republicans do”.
Thanks for the clarification.
To an extent, I say it’s about time you do.
Not with policy or law breaking. Not that crazy shit.
But rhetorically. Imho it’s time for American Dems to stop playing so nice…
The evidence is all available online. If you support trump for office you want a king.
We already have a real big, serious problem.
Though I agree, dropping to their level just let’s them go lower.
They go lower regardless. “When they go low, we go high!” has become “alright guys, they’re putting trans people in the showers, but at least we played by the rules! It’s important that everyone had fun!”
Imho it does nothing.
No dropping or raising of the level from dema has affected maga discourse in the least.
They will do the exact same shit. We have had too many years to learn that lesson now.
Either smack back (rhetorically) or they will just make up something anyway.
It’s Murc’s Law in action is what it is.