• finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      If the options were a bus with 32% fatality and no bus with 100% fatality, would you advocate we tear down the bus?

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        And we only have those two choices because of capitalist gaslighting. Given those two options, I would advocate deposing a few more insurance executives to improve the situation.

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          Alright, clearly you’re lost.

          This is a post about making threats of death and violence to people who work in an office building handling insurance claims, getting it to shut down for the day.

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            I don’t think swingingthelamp is lost.

            I think they just hit you with the polite version of the “coconut island” cohesive nature of capital.

            I think capitalist realism is what makes many of us choose the lesser evil of 68% mortality.

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              Excellent, I’d not heard of the coconut island parable before! That’s very apt.

              I was thinking of the False Dilemma fallacy. The notion that the only two options are a school bus service with 32% casualty/loss rate, or no bus and a 100% casualty/loss rate, is capitalist gaslighting when we can plainly see the government bus company in other countries getting all the kids to school. For less cost, at that.

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              You kind of defeated yourself by admitting the 32% is the lesser evil that you still wouldnt choose because you associate it with a different political tribe.

              You’re literally advocating we harm ourselves as an alternative to “caPiTAlisM”.

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                I’m not sure you understand that I don’t subscribe to the same binary choices you do.

                It’s not an ideological tribe that dictates my decision. I understand that better options exist and I choose those.

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                  You do, actually. We all do. You’re either not a citizen of this nation and therefor you want others to face consequences, or you’re beholden to the same consequences as us all. Even by saying you refuse to choose, you’re picking one of the two. Just like 10 Million DNC voters stayed home last election, they’re facing the consequences.