• mke_geek@lemm.ee
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    17 days ago

    No one is murdering the poor.

    (Except other poor people with guns and drugs. Or themselves.)

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      17 days ago

      What we know about Jordan Neely’s chokehold death on the New York subway

      Toronto Police Service reported that eight teenagers allegedly swarmed Lee over a three-minute period, repeatedly stabbing him.

      Deaths put spotlight on growing US homeless population

      “The recent murders of people experiencing homelessness - many who were sleeping at the time - is a cruel reminder that this is a life-and-death issue that must be met with urgency,” Jeff Olivet, director of the US Interagency Council on Homelessness, said.

      Those interviewed said that a political climate that stigmatises homelessness, inadequate housing, and gang and drug violence all help create a dangerous world for some of America’s most vulnerable people.


      I could almost applaud you for some kind of “holier than thou” morality you seem to be trying to project about the UHC CEO murder. Unfortunately your comments expose that you’re just a middle-upper class cheerleader who stigmatizes the poor (as proclaimed from above, “No one is murdering the poor. - Except other poor people with guns and drugs. Or themselves” jesus I can’t believe you actually commented that).


      Poverty is a major public health crisis. Let’s treat it like one.

      the key question is what it means to “die from poverty.” As a social determinant of health, the government already recognizes a direct line between economic conditions and health outcomes.

      Why the Poor Die Young

      Why are America’s poor dying young? According to the paper, the causes are internal. Most of the variation in life expectancy doesn’t come from “external factors,” like murder, but rather from medical causes, like heart disease and diabetes. The poor die early because they get sicker faster.

      5 Ways Being Poor is a Crime

      1. Fining the homeless for being homeless. If you are homeless in America and have nowhere to go and are down on your luck, it is increasingly difficult to find a safe space in which to exist without being fined for loitering. According to the report, an estimated 600,000 people are homeless on any given night. Though nearly 13 percent of the nation’s low-income housing has been lost since 2001, and many people simply cannot afford housing, 34 percent of cities ban public camping, 18 percent prohibit sleeping in public and 43 percent prevent people from sleeping in vehicles

      Poverty Is Deadly

      the discovery that the death rate for middle-aged white Americans began rising around 1999 is alarming. The increase is accounted for entirely by those with a high school degree or less. The 2013 mortality rates for midlife whites with that level of educational attainment was 736 per 100,000; for those with some college education it was 288 per 100,000; for whites with a B.A. or higher their death rate stood at 178 per 100,000. In other words, whites who have only a high school degree or less are four times more likely to die between ages 45 and 54 than are college-educated whites.

      The Cost of Being Poor: Why It Costs So Much to Be Poor in America

      Poverty creates more poverty. – financial decisions forced by poverty often end up keeping poor people stuck in poverty.

      Poor people spend more of their income on necessities. Lower-income Americans spend more of their income on housing, food and groceries, and transportation, compared to mid and high-income individuals.

      Less expensive goods are often less economical. Poor people often buy low-quality goods in small quantities, leading to constant replacement and higher costs over time.

      Financial exclusion exacerbates poverty. People with poor access to credit often pay exorbitant interest rates and high fees for basic financial services.


      Are you completely unaware of the financial and economical situation going on in America? The rising cost of Healthcare, Education, and housing/life expenses? You’re honestly coming off as a shill to everyone, maybe planning on a future political run so have to keep your comments “politically moral” (i.e. make sure the higher up’s approve of your message)? Don’t want to turn into another Mark Robinson I suppose.

      If you have some coherent messaging or reasoning I would love to hear it. So far I’m assuming you hate the poor and blame everyone for their life situations, there are no outside factors that determines someones struggles in life but themselves? The poor die by their own hands or those close to them, no one in a position of power has done anything to cause them problems?

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        16 days ago

        Holy shit this is the greatest comment I have ever seen on a public forum. Does lemmy have a bestof community?

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        17 days ago

        There’s a lot of people in this world who make bad choices like using drugs, alcohol, smoking, eating food that’s bad for them, etc. Someone doesn’t have to be poor to make those decisions. But those who don’t have a lot of money, choosing alcohol over food – then complain about not having enough food – that’s on them.

        They don’t deserve to be gunned down in cold blood and neither does someone with money.

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          But those who don’t have a lot of money, choosing alcohol over food – then complain about not having enough food – that’s on them.

          Even when, by making the world hell, you nudge, inspire or promote them to turn to alcohol?

          Are you saying people are not responsible for influencing or coercing other people or their environment?

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            16 days ago

            You’re arguing that people don’t have free will. People make choices that affect their lives.

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              16 days ago

              You’re arguing that people don’t have free will

              [citation needed]

              I’m arguing that free will has limits in reality. Blaming people for stuff that is literally above their paygrade (not to mention designed and programmed against them) is some ruling-class schmuck.