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    This is the trolley problem. There are people on the track who will die if you don’t pull the lever. You stand and watch them die and declare, “I didn’t put the train on the track. It’s not my fault.”

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      You forgot some parts. The bystander being asked to pull the lever will enable a genocide by pulling it, and those rich people stuck on the tracks could pull a policy lever and save themselves but they refused to because someone offered them a bribe not to.

      The rich people stuck on the track just want to play the vicitm when they also set up the whole scenario in the fist place by doing crazy stuff. So they crybully about it, and pretend to be victims of the scenario that they themselves created. I’d suggest they save themselves and stop doing stupid stuff. If we save them, how will they learn?

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        The bystander being asked to pull the lever will enable a genocide by pulling it

        That statement shows you are a Trump supporter just like the meme claimed. Trump has committed to the extermination of Palestinians and even said he would deny any refugees.

        The Trolley problem has 1 person on one track and 5 on the other. There’s a huge difference between Trump and Harris’s statements on Palestine.

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          Harris can pull her own lever anytime she wants, and that lever is to stop the weapons shipments. She then earns enough progressive votes to win, saving everyone, instead of looking for all the Dem voters to save her while she supports a far right war thats costing her a lot of votes.

          How you get that I am a trump supporter from what I said is hard to imagine. But I think you’re just making it up to have something … anything, to attack with.

          You need to work on your metaphors, and your basic reasoning, and your rhetoric. If you are going to call people names at least make it interesting and consistent with reality. Otherwise you are just boring.

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            Harris can pull her own lever anytime she wants

            Harris isn’t President!

            Trump has called for the extermination of all of Palestine.

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              Doesnt matter. She’s in charge of a campaign that we arent sure is winning. If she wants to make sure she will win, drop the weapons shipments and she gets progressive votes. Progressives want to vote for her.

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                It doesn’t matter that she is legally unable to stop weapon shipments? Wtf?

                How about I blame you for Palestine? Why haven’t you stopped weapon shipments? It’s your fault. You should be fired from your job for your genocidal inaction. It doesn’t matter that your job can’t do anything about it. It’s your fault.

                But more seriously, you want Palestine exterminated. Because that’s the alternative. Trump has said he wants Israel to finish the job and will not give refuge to any Palestinians attempting to flee extermination. You want that.

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                  You lack imagination because you are comortable doing what you are told, which in your case is probably best. I want to pressure Kamala to change her stance because she is desperate to win. If she is backed into a corner enough, I bet she changes it. She’s already scraping the bottom of the barrel sucking up to gun nuts.

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                    I think Trump is not just a worse candidate but a danger to America. You would let him win and blame the victims.

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        There was no retribution in the meme. Only that the person would be remembered for their lack of action.

        What would you think of me if I saw your house catch fire and instead of calling the fire department, I watched your pets burn to death?

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            It’s not false. Through inaction they allowed something bad to happen. You want to have it both ways.

            Not a very good hypothetical as you can actually do something there

            As if you can’t vote?

            Even if you are in solid Blue State, an overwhelming majority against Trump will send a message to the next fascist attempt.

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                If you are in a Blue State, it’s only Blue because others voted.

                Your attitude is, “Someone else will call the fire department. I’ll stand here and watch the house burn.”

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                    But someone hasn’t called the fire department. The election is in November. You are going to stand around watching the fire burn assuming your neighbors will call for you.