• superkret
    57·
    1 month ago

    It’s sad, but also makes me really angry, that “pro Palestine” and “supporting Israel” are now seen as polar opposites.
    Also, the ongoing war is in no way connected to the 1940’s Holocaust, apart from the obvious “they’re both unspeakably horrible”.

    • B312@lemmy.world
      162·
      1 month ago

      The holocaust led to more jews going to the holy land which lead to the creation of the state of Israel, which since its inception has had expelling the Palestinians as its main goal. Palestinians rightfully so started resisting through different groups which has lead to Israel doubling down on its genocidal motives leading to today. They are connected just not as obviously as other events.

    • basmati@lemmus.orgEnglish
      75·
      1 month ago

      Israel cannot exist as a concept if you support Palestinians right to exist. They’re fundamentally incompatible.

      • theneverfox@pawb.socialEnglish
        22·
        1 month ago

        … What? There are fully integrated Palestinians living in Israel right now, they could just integrate them or let them establish their own self rule in one form or another

        All it takes is to improve conditions and slowly increase rights for Palestinians until they’re full citizens. Probably start by making it illegal to mow them down in the streets. If you cut off the flow of new recruits, Hamas will wither. If conditions are rapidly improving, it’s hard to convince people to martyr themselves

        And Israel could do that… Just not with an unpopular administration that is using this conflict to stay in power

        • basmati@lemmus.orgEnglish
          2·
          1 month ago

          Netanyahu’s administration has support from the majority of the population, and has only lost some support due to not eliminating Gaza fast enough. There is no world where the fascist imperialist settler colony of Israel exists while free Palestinians exist. The people of Israel have made that clear, not the administration.