• superkret
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    3 months ago

    If Socialism worked, the Socialist countries could punch the US.

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      3 months ago

      Imagine you’re playing a game of Monopoly, but you come in to it with half the normal amount of money, after the game has already gone on for half an hour.

      What do you suppose your chances of winning are?

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        3 months ago

        Doesn’t this apply to both the US and socialist countries?

        I guess I’m also not very clear what people mean when they say socialist country. Capitalist with good regulations? No money? Government owned businesses?

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          Doesn’t this apply to both the US and socialist countries?

          Yes, but I think you’re hitting on the wrong point here. The point is that countries themselves cannot change their power overnight, nor their structure. Cuba cannot hope to punch at the US as the US is the global Imperialist Hegemon, and has been so for a century, even if it is steadily improving conditions for its own citizens over time.

          I guess I’m also not very clear what people mean when they say socialist country. Capitalist with good regulations? No money? Government owned businesses?

          You’re on a Marxist community. Socialism in Marxism refers to the Dictatorship of the Proletariat, ie shifting State Power from Bourgeois control to Proletarian control. An economically fully-Socialist country is going to be focused on central planning and collective ownership and direction of production, though Socialism itself is a transitional status to Communism eventually.

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      3 months ago

      Socialism does work, why would you think AES could immediately fight the global Imperialist Hegemon immediately?

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      TIL the merit of a broad socioeconomic system is dependent upon if nations that adopt it can militarily defeat the 3rd largest country and government that has hundreds of years of industry and exploitating various groups of people beforehand

      And those like you wonder why the surviving socialist countries were authoritarian and highly militarized…